GUANTANAMO BAY NAVAL BASE, Cuba — Blaring from a speaker behind a metal grate in his tiny cell in Iraq, the blistering rock from Nine Inch Nails hit Prisoner No. 200343 like a sonic bludgeon.
"Stains like the blood on your teeth," Trent Reznor snarled over distorted guitars. "Bite. Chew."
The auditory assault went on for days, then weeks, then months at the U.S. military detention center in Iraq. Twenty hours a day. AC/DC. Queen. Pantera. The prisoner, military contractor Donald Vance of Chicago, told The Associated Press he was soon suicidal.
The tactic has been common in the U.S. war on terror, with forces systematically using loud music on hundreds of detainees in Iraq, Afghanistan and Guantanamo Bay. Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, then the U.S. military commander in Iraq, authorized it on Sept. 14, 2003, "to create fear, disorient ... and prolong capture shock."
Now the detainees aren't the only ones complaining. Musicians are banding together to demand the U.S. military stop using their songs as weapons.
A campaign being launched Wednesday has brought together groups including Massive Attack and musicians such as Tom Morello, who played with Rage Against the Machine and Audioslave and is now on a solo tour. It will feature minutes of silence during concerts and festivals, said Chloe Davies of the British law group Reprieve, which represents dozens of Guantanamo Bay detainees and is organizing the campaign.
At least Vance, who says he was jailed for reporting illegal arms sales, was used to rock music. For many detainees who grew up in Afghanistan _ where music was prohibited under Taliban rule _ interrogations by U.S. forces marked their first exposure to the pounding rhythms, played at top volume.
The experience was overwhelming for many. Binyam Mohammed, now a prisoner at Guantanamo Bay, said men held with him at the CIA's "Dark Prison" in Afghanistan wound up screaming and smashing their heads against walls, unable to endure more.
"There was loud music, (Eminem's) 'Slim Shady' and Dr. Dre for 20 days. I heard this nonstop over and over," he told his lawyer, Clive Stafford Smith. "The CIA worked on people, including me, day and night for the months before I left. Plenty lost their minds."
Rear Adm. David Thomas, the commander of Guantanamo's detention center, said the music treatment is not currently used at Guantanamo but added that he could not rule out its use in the future.
"I couldn't speculate and I wouldn't speculate but I can tell you it doesn't happen here at Guantanamo and it hasn't happened since I've been here," Thomas, who has been at Guantanamo for a half-year, told AP.
The spokeswoman for Guantanamo's detention center, Navy Cmdr. Pauline Storum, wouldn't give details of when and how music has been used at the prison.
FBI agents stationed at Guantanamo Bay reported numerous instances in which music was blasted at detainees, saying they were "told such tactics were common there."
According to an FBI memo, one interrogator at Guantanamo Bay bragged he needed only four days to "break" someone by alternating 16 hours of music and lights with four hours of silence and darkness.
Ruhal Ahmed, a Briton who was captured in Afghanistan, describes excruciating sessions at Guantanamo Bay. He said his hands were shackled to his feet, which were shackled to the floor, forcing him into a painful squat for periods of up to two days.
"You're in agony," Ahmed, who was released without charge in 2004, told Reprieve. He said the agony was compounded when music was introduced, because "before you could actually concentrate on something else, try to make yourself focus on some other things in your life that you did before and take that pain away.
"It makes you feel like you are going mad," he said.
Not all of the music is hard rock. Christopher Cerf, who wrote music for "Sesame Street," said he was horrified to learn songs from the children's TV show were used in interrogations.
"I wouldn't want my music to be a party to that," he told AP.
Bob Singleton, whose song "I Love You" is beloved by legions of preschool Barney fans, wrote in a newspaper opinion column that any music can become unbearable if played loudly for long stretches.
"It's absolutely ludicrous," he wrote in the Los Angeles Times. "A song that was designed to make little children feel safe and loved was somehow going to threaten the mental state of adults and drive them to the emotional breaking point?"
Morello, of Rage Against the Machine, has been especially forceful in denouncing the practice. During a recent concert in San Francisco, he proposed taking revenge on President George W. Bush.
"I suggest that they level Guantanamo Bay, but they keep one small cell and they put Bush in there ... and they blast some Rage Against the Machine," he said to whoops and cheers.
Some musicians, however, say they're proud that their music is used in interrogations. Those include bassist Stevie Benton, whose group Drowning Pool has performed in Iraq and recorded one of the interrogators' favorites, "Bodies."
"People assume we should be offended that somebody in the military thinks our song is annoying enough that played over and over it can psychologically break someone down," he told Spin magazine. "I take it as an honor to think that perhaps our song could be used to quell another 9/11 attack or something like that."
The band's record label told AP that Benton did not want to comment further. Instead, the band issued a statement reading: "Drowning Pool is committed to supporting the lives and rights of our troops stationed around the world."
Vance, in a telephone interview from Chicago, said the tactic can make innocent men go mad. According to a lawsuit he has filed, his jailers said he was being held because his employer was suspected of selling weapons to terrorists and insurgents. The U.S. military confirms Vance was jailed but won't elaborate because of the lawsuit.
He said he was locked in an overcooled 9-foot-by-9-foot cell that had a speaker with a metal grate over it. Two large speakers stood in the hallway outside. The music was almost constant, mostly hard rock, he said.
"There was a lot of Nine Inch Nails, including 'March of the Pigs,'" he said. "I couldn't tell you how many times I heard Queen's 'We Will Rock You.'"
He wore only a jumpsuit and flip-flops and had no protection from the cold.
"I had no blanket or sheet. If I had, I would probably have tried suicide," he said. "I got to a few points toward the end where I thought, `How can I do this?' Actively plotting, `How can I get away with it so they don't stop it?'"
Asked to describe the experience, Vance said: "It sort of removes you from you. You can no longer formulate your own thoughts when you're in an environment like that."
He was released after 97 days. Two years later, he says, "I keep my home very quiet."
"Stains like the blood on your teeth," Trent Reznor snarled over distorted guitars. "Bite. Chew."
The auditory assault went on for days, then weeks, then months at the U.S. military detention center in Iraq. Twenty hours a day. AC/DC. Queen. Pantera. The prisoner, military contractor Donald Vance of Chicago, told The Associated Press he was soon suicidal.
The tactic has been common in the U.S. war on terror, with forces systematically using loud music on hundreds of detainees in Iraq, Afghanistan and Guantanamo Bay. Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, then the U.S. military commander in Iraq, authorized it on Sept. 14, 2003, "to create fear, disorient ... and prolong capture shock."
Now the detainees aren't the only ones complaining. Musicians are banding together to demand the U.S. military stop using their songs as weapons.
A campaign being launched Wednesday has brought together groups including Massive Attack and musicians such as Tom Morello, who played with Rage Against the Machine and Audioslave and is now on a solo tour. It will feature minutes of silence during concerts and festivals, said Chloe Davies of the British law group Reprieve, which represents dozens of Guantanamo Bay detainees and is organizing the campaign.
At least Vance, who says he was jailed for reporting illegal arms sales, was used to rock music. For many detainees who grew up in Afghanistan _ where music was prohibited under Taliban rule _ interrogations by U.S. forces marked their first exposure to the pounding rhythms, played at top volume.
The experience was overwhelming for many. Binyam Mohammed, now a prisoner at Guantanamo Bay, said men held with him at the CIA's "Dark Prison" in Afghanistan wound up screaming and smashing their heads against walls, unable to endure more.
"There was loud music, (Eminem's) 'Slim Shady' and Dr. Dre for 20 days. I heard this nonstop over and over," he told his lawyer, Clive Stafford Smith. "The CIA worked on people, including me, day and night for the months before I left. Plenty lost their minds."
Rear Adm. David Thomas, the commander of Guantanamo's detention center, said the music treatment is not currently used at Guantanamo but added that he could not rule out its use in the future.
"I couldn't speculate and I wouldn't speculate but I can tell you it doesn't happen here at Guantanamo and it hasn't happened since I've been here," Thomas, who has been at Guantanamo for a half-year, told AP.
The spokeswoman for Guantanamo's detention center, Navy Cmdr. Pauline Storum, wouldn't give details of when and how music has been used at the prison.
FBI agents stationed at Guantanamo Bay reported numerous instances in which music was blasted at detainees, saying they were "told such tactics were common there."
According to an FBI memo, one interrogator at Guantanamo Bay bragged he needed only four days to "break" someone by alternating 16 hours of music and lights with four hours of silence and darkness.
Ruhal Ahmed, a Briton who was captured in Afghanistan, describes excruciating sessions at Guantanamo Bay. He said his hands were shackled to his feet, which were shackled to the floor, forcing him into a painful squat for periods of up to two days.
"You're in agony," Ahmed, who was released without charge in 2004, told Reprieve. He said the agony was compounded when music was introduced, because "before you could actually concentrate on something else, try to make yourself focus on some other things in your life that you did before and take that pain away.
"It makes you feel like you are going mad," he said.
Not all of the music is hard rock. Christopher Cerf, who wrote music for "Sesame Street," said he was horrified to learn songs from the children's TV show were used in interrogations.
"I wouldn't want my music to be a party to that," he told AP.
Bob Singleton, whose song "I Love You" is beloved by legions of preschool Barney fans, wrote in a newspaper opinion column that any music can become unbearable if played loudly for long stretches.
"It's absolutely ludicrous," he wrote in the Los Angeles Times. "A song that was designed to make little children feel safe and loved was somehow going to threaten the mental state of adults and drive them to the emotional breaking point?"
Morello, of Rage Against the Machine, has been especially forceful in denouncing the practice. During a recent concert in San Francisco, he proposed taking revenge on President George W. Bush.
"I suggest that they level Guantanamo Bay, but they keep one small cell and they put Bush in there ... and they blast some Rage Against the Machine," he said to whoops and cheers.
Some musicians, however, say they're proud that their music is used in interrogations. Those include bassist Stevie Benton, whose group Drowning Pool has performed in Iraq and recorded one of the interrogators' favorites, "Bodies."
"People assume we should be offended that somebody in the military thinks our song is annoying enough that played over and over it can psychologically break someone down," he told Spin magazine. "I take it as an honor to think that perhaps our song could be used to quell another 9/11 attack or something like that."
The band's record label told AP that Benton did not want to comment further. Instead, the band issued a statement reading: "Drowning Pool is committed to supporting the lives and rights of our troops stationed around the world."
Vance, in a telephone interview from Chicago, said the tactic can make innocent men go mad. According to a lawsuit he has filed, his jailers said he was being held because his employer was suspected of selling weapons to terrorists and insurgents. The U.S. military confirms Vance was jailed but won't elaborate because of the lawsuit.
He said he was locked in an overcooled 9-foot-by-9-foot cell that had a speaker with a metal grate over it. Two large speakers stood in the hallway outside. The music was almost constant, mostly hard rock, he said.
"There was a lot of Nine Inch Nails, including 'March of the Pigs,'" he said. "I couldn't tell you how many times I heard Queen's 'We Will Rock You.'"
He wore only a jumpsuit and flip-flops and had no protection from the cold.
"I had no blanket or sheet. If I had, I would probably have tried suicide," he said. "I got to a few points toward the end where I thought, `How can I do this?' Actively plotting, `How can I get away with it so they don't stop it?'"
Asked to describe the experience, Vance said: "It sort of removes you from you. You can no longer formulate your own thoughts when you're in an environment like that."
He was released after 97 days. Two years later, he says, "I keep my home very quiet."
33 comments:
I agree that listening to any music at loud volumes for 20 hours a day would drive anyone crazy. I can understand how artists might be offended that there music was being used to torture people, I'm sure that I would probably find it very offensive if my music was used as a torture device. Also as it shows, it really has little to do with the actual style of music and more to the constancy and volume, but either way, i can understand how artist could find this to be very offensive. Finally, I think that it is an especially bad torture if it is used on the innocent as it might actually have severe psychological effects.
wow......
that was a very interesting article. The barney song did get annoying after a long time. I get annoyed by listening to the overplayed songs on the radio after like a week, but for months.... now that is real torture.
I dont think that they should torture people with music.
Especially heavy metal that even gets on my nerves and to have that blasting for 16hours and only 4 hours to have a break from all the chaos.
That would be breaking the amendment or cruel and unusal punishment
I think that is ridiculous. People should never be treated like animals and for our government to do that and then have people be proud of that is absolutely ludicrous. This is one of the worst ways of torture and should never be preform.
i think that rock music will not drive you crazy. It depends on how literal you take the lyrics, nad its also that they are in a prison THERE IS NOTHING TO DO!!!
i think i will go just mabey a little loopy just listing to music for searval days.
its also on your mood, mood has everything to do on how music effects you.
if you look at some of the people that listen to rock at have killed theseves, some people went so far on killing others, and themselves just by the music that they listen to
ozzy osborne, judist priest, marilyn manson, slipknot are such artist that have been held by people saying that their music drove people to kill themselves, and to kill others.
such lyrics as
"Wine is fine, but whiskey's quicker
Suicide is slow with liqueur
Take a bottle, drown your sorrows
Then it floods away tomorrows
Away tomorrows"
from the song "Suicide Solution"
by Ozzy Osborn
lyrics like this were said to have a sublimale messages to kill themselves, which one teenager in the early 1980's did.
people say that it was al ozzys falt for this, but i highly dissagree, because if the guy loved ozzy so much, that he drove himself to kill himself, he needed some serious help.
Man that sucks for them, but only if they are inocent. But you have to admit, playing rock music to break people is pretty clever. This though, is bad for most of these artists to see their music as torcher. I'm thinking that the ones torchering just want something to rock out to while they work.
Wow, they are using the music we can just sit down and listen to for just joyment and turning it into something of torture. This, I am not for. I support the troops who are in Iraq and am for the prisoners at Guantanamo Bay staying there which Mr. Barack wants to change:/ But to blare music in their ears is just pure torture and not called for. I respect Mr. Morello for his actions at his concerts and his speeches;) As for the Drowning Pool guy, all I can do is just chuckle at him. Proud that his music is torturing people? No, not right at all. I believe if they want answers use the illegal truth serum:P instead of using something as valuable as music to make people go insane.
~Isaac
man i dont think i can listen to music for 20 hours a day id go nuts ans would start talkin loud when people are standing right beside me. i rarely listen to rock but if i did i would be mad that they played my favorite jimmy hendrix song and used it to toture some one
Josh,
The lyrics are not the point, or at least the whole point.
The main issue is the use of musicians musical work as a means of psychological torture.
thats terrible, if i were the artist that made the song that people were being tortured to i would definately be offended, i mean yeah it might be a bad song, but thats no reason to torture somebody! if i were that artist i would sue if possible. i know that i get really anooyed if i here a certain song over and over and over again, i mean who wouldnt?
um..thats new.
i would get annoyed to, i get annoyed at work because we play the same songs over and over. i couldnt imagine having to listen for months i would go nuts!
I don't know how I would feel if I was any of these artists and I found out my music was being used as a torture device. The guillotine got its name from a doctor who was trying to make public executions more humane, his family couldn't get the name ever changed and is forever credited for the invention that started with good intention. I think this is kind of the same thing. I wouldn't want to have the type of music used for torture because it makes me look bad. I personally would prefer 20 hours of a song over physical torture or water torture but hey that's me hopefully ill never be in any situation like that. I think using other people's music for torture is wrong unless they directly promote it...
i can definatly see how this could offend any artist..i mean they are making something that is supposed to make people happy and instaed they are using this their music to torture people. I guess that people are sometimes more concerned with the volume.
I believe that using music as torture is no different than using any other kind of torture. Just like other tortures, it is unacceptable. I perfectly understand that the artists of these songs are appaled by this. And, I think it is sick that some are proud that their music is being used to torture detanies. Excuse me if this sounds a little corny, but music is meant to bring happiness and peace; it is absolutely propoterous to think of using music as a way to drive people mad. I strongly disagree with what Andrew H. says: it is not a "clever" tactic, and the ones torchering difinetly do not "just want something to rock out to while they work[torture]". Guards wouldn't blare the heavy metal for 20 non-stop in the ears of prisoners just so they have something to listen to. That's a ridiculous idea.
I think torturing a piece of crap thug is just a fine way of doing business and I think it's the only way to do business with thugs who want to kill or harm innocent civilians. Listening to the retarded Lubbock radio stations like FMX is just like getting tortured as they play the same old tired crap over and over and over again.
This is crazy! This is a harsh form of torture... Honestly, it's breaking all of the prisoners, whether or not they're guilty. I think that the artists have a right to complain: it's not everyday that the music that you've "worked hard" to make is being used as a torture device... I think that the US should tone the amount of time that they torture people. Twenty hours may as well kill him, as it will turn him deaf.
That is so awful.
This is very extreme torture that can drive people to insanity. Techniques like this should never be used.
I know that anything repeated over and over again can drive you insane, but I wonder how different the outcomes would have been had they played a mixture of jazz and classical (with a little of The Shins and Radiohead mixed in.)It would be very interesting to see the difference.
Using any form of art as a means of torture is despicable. There is no question about it. In no situation should the barbarians at Gitmo be allowed to use music in order to psychologically harm prisoners.
Sadly, I think we can also trace this to our own good ole American culture. Many musical acts get by nowadays solely on the shock factor. Point and case, the song featured in this article,Bodies by Drowning Pool is an idiotic song trying to convey the image of a massacre. Disturbed, Rob Zombie, Insane Clown Posse, Cannibal Corpse, Slipknot, are all guilty of producing exposé's of "violent" music. They all have virtually no talent but are making millions off of kids who think it's really cool to listen to rampaging clowns whose over-produced soundscape evokes a Texas Chainsaw Massacre movie.
Call me a music snob, but I really do think we have a problem in America when kids don't know who John Lennon, or at least what he stood for, but will shell out $18 for the next butt rock sell-outs.
But I digress, seriously. I guess what I'm trying to say is that it is never right for music to be used as torture, but sometimes the song itself can be traced to have psychological effects alone
I think that it's a good idea...
I know it would drive me crazy, in a world where we cant decide what level of pain determines level of torture, maybe this will keeps them happy...
I say, go on with it. Maybe we can get them to talk
It's strange how we don't realize how bad something can be for people until we take it to an extreme. Of course, it could still be strictly the loud part of the music that's bad for people.
I'm sure that listening to music almost the whole day at full volume would be annoying, and could possibly drive someone crazy. But any song would do that, I'm sure it doesn't even have to be a song.
So as for the artists being offended, I believe they choose the music because of its volume...not because of the artist themselves. But artists are touchy about their music, so I can get why they're offended.
This article made me laugh more than anything.
Maybe I'd feel sorry for the prisoners if they werent locked up in guantanamo bay for a good reason. They're criminals :), no sympathy.
(wasnt sure if my other comment got through)
I'm sure that listening to music almost the whole day at full volume would be annoying, and could possibly drive someone crazy. But any song would do that, I'm sure it doesn't even have to be a song.
So as for the artists being offended, I believe they choose the music because of its volume...not because of the artist themselves. But artists are touchy about their music, so I can get why they're offended.
This article made me laugh more than anything.
Maybe I'd feel sorry for the prisoners if they werent locked up in guantanamo bay for a good reason. They're criminals :), no sympathy.
Using a form of entertainment as psychological torture just shows how there can be too much of a good thing.
On a side note, if they wanted monotony they should've went with techno. Honestly, i just feel indifferent about the issue. But just to be like everyone else, constant music would drive me insane too.
yes i also agree that listening to music in loud volumes for a lot of the day is disturbing yes i also believe that music used for torture is illegitimate and it may also have bad psychological effects
There is nothing wrong with listening to music to take a time out of the crazy world we live in. But if it disturb others, then you need to control it. Some of the music do have offensive matters, but if you view the music as an art rather than taken seriously to what they say then, you have problems.
Having to listen to the same amount of music repeatedly at high levels of volume could possibly drive a person to the point of insanity and contemplating suicide, but something else within that person might also be driving them toward insanity. I can understand how listening to a certain song can get annoying, but if it drives you insane then you must really have other serious problems. This means of using loud music as torture seems really unusual and could make a person mentally unstable. It might drive people crazy inside their minds but probably not entirely insane. Insanity is caused by more than just repeated loud music. When it comes to the music that is choosen, the prisons exercising this act should probably get permission from the musicians to use their music before they use it. As mentioned in this article, some musicians may get really offended from the use of their music as torture.
I think that this is a very reasonable approach to torture. There is no bodily damage or degrading involved compared to waterboarding or abuse.
hazah! you want real torture try turning your radio to fmx they play the same 50 songs over and over and over. that being said i do believe it would be possible to drive a person crazy listening to repetitive music. i wish the government would use my music to torture people
I think it's kind of unreasonable for this artist to be offended by his music being used for torture. Anything you listen to for a long enough period of time can become torture so it's not this specific music that's being used as a torture device, it's repitition.
Considering the fact that a lot of "terror suspects" at prisons like Guantanamo are actually innocent, this sort of makes me sick.
I wish I could think of some sort of alternative to offer, but I can't... and that makes my point seem less legitimate, but I don't understand why bastardizing a good thing (music) should be encouraged anywhere...
I mean, especially for innocent people who are not accustomed to the sound of music at all, being exposed in this way must be especially jarring and disorienting. While that may be the desired effect, it's quite likely that the tactic itself is being abused.
Well.Everything is possible.But actually l don't always listen my music,most time l just play dota。So maybe rock music will drive us crazy,but somebody dead because they was swimming,but you can't say swimming is dangerous,don't swim any more.
Psh! That's that's crazy! Using rock music as torture!!! That's messed up! I would love to hear music as much as they do, that's not torture! I don't c how that would make people crazy. That makes me mad!! Ugh that's wrong on so many levels.
Using music as a cruel and unusual punishment is actually pretty funny until you think about it. I mean i love queen, kiss, rage against the machine, or any other hard rock bands...but barney and sesame street? That would definitely drive me insane, especially if i had no way to escape from it. Music is for enjoyment, or in my case, to clear your head of all your problems for a while; not to torture and make you wish you were dead. I completely disagree with the soldiers tactics, even though the music doesn't bother them doesn't mean that it doesn't bother the prisoners especially because most of them have never heard music like that before. This is why I'm glad we have laws against cruel and unusual punishment
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